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Place bets

Chapter 3: More ways to bet · Lesson 9 of 21 · 6 min read

Bet a number directly, without waiting for a Come bet to travel, and learn which numbers are cheap.

A Place bet lets you pick a number and bet it will roll before a 7. No come-out, no travelling. You hand the dealer chips and say "place the 6". The bet stays up after each win until a 7 takes it, or until you take it down.

The catch is that place bets pay slightly less than true odds. That shortfall is the house edge:

Place True odds Pays Bet in multiples of House edge
6 or 8 6:5 7:6 $6 1.52%
5 or 9 3:2 7:5 $5 4.00%
4 or 10 2:1 9:5 $5 6.67%

Place 6 and 8 are good bets, nearly as cheap as the Pass Line (1.52% vs 1.41%). The 5/9 is meh, and 4/10 is expensive. The next lesson shows a cheaper way to bet the 4 and 10.

Rules to know:

  • Place bets are off on the come-out roll unless you say "working". A come-out 7 doesn't take them, and a come-out 6 doesn't pay them.
  • You can take them down, turn them off for a while, or press them (add winnings to make the bet bigger) between rolls.
  • Use the right multiples. $6 on the 6 wins $7, but $5 on the 6 only wins $5 at most casinos, because the payout is rounded down. That raises your edge. The simulator warns you when your amount isn't a full-pay unit, and tells you what the bet would actually pay.
Show the math: Place-bet edges

Place 6: wins with P = 5/11 and pays 7/6. EV = (5/11)(7/6) − (6/11)(1) = (35/66 − 36/66) = −1/66 ≈ −1.515%. Place 5: P(win) = 4/10, pays 7/5. EV = (2/5)(7/5) − 3/5 = 14/25 − 15/25 = −1/25 = −4.00%. Place 4: P(win) = 3/9, pays 9/5. EV = (1/3)(9/5) − 2/3 = 9/15 − 10/15 = −1/15 ≈ −6.67%.

Place the 6 and 8

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The 4 costs more than you think

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Quiz

What does a $12 Place bet on the 8 win?

  1. $12
  2. $14
  3. $10
  4. $7
Show answer

B: $14. 7:6 means $7 for every $6: $12 wins $14.

Quiz

Which Place bet has the lowest house edge?

  1. 4
  2. 5
  3. 6
  4. 10
Show answer

C: 6. 6 and 8: 1.52%. Then 5/9 at 4%, then 4/10 at 6.67%.

Quiz

By default, what happens to your Place 6 if a 7 rolls on the come-out?

  1. It loses
  2. It wins
  3. Nothing, it's off
  4. It's moved
Show answer

C: Nothing, it's off. Place bets are off on the come-out unless you call them working.

Quiz

Why bet $6 rather than $5 on Place 6?

  1. Table minimum
  2. $5 gets paid even money, a higher edge
  3. No reason
  4. To get 2:1
Show answer

B: $5 gets paid even money, a higher edge. 7:6 needs $6 units. A $5 bet is usually paid $5, and the edge jumps to about 9.1%.

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